Q&A 3 - DEPARTURE OF FIRST FRUITS & REVELATION OF THE WICKED
Q - It looks as though you see Maitreya as the false prophet. Am I correct to assume that you believe that he will be revealed first before the Anti Christ political figure is revealed? Who do you believe is the Anti Christ political figure? Could you expound further on the prophecies in Zechariah 3-6 and their potential connection to the Pope?
A - There are three places where the timing is kind of notable re: the departure of First Fruits vs. the revealing of the Wicked: Revelation 12, II Thessalonians 2, and Isaiah 57.
In Revelation 12:5 the man child represents not only Yeshua in a previous dispensation, but the First Fruits in this one. This man child is caught up unto God in verse 5 - the catching up of the First Fruits. The red dragon was allowed to come to earth, and he brought hoards of helpers with him per verses 3-4. He was poised to try to devour the man child, but was unable to do so. I believe the Red Dragon is Hatonn (one of the Ascended Masters).
The red dragon is frequenting the earth prior to the catching up, and is poised to devour the first fruits when it is birthed (harvested), but will not be allowed to do so. The woman (the portion of the church who is left behind but awake to what is happening) will flee and go into hiding in verse 6 before the war in heaven occurs in verse 7. During the war of heaven, the dragon is cast down to Earth to stay.
It is not really clear here when the two beasts of Revelation are given their positions on Earth, but patching this into Thessalonians 2 seems to give us more information. Verse 7 here seems to match up to Revelation 12:4, telling us that Hatonn is already here and working prior to the departure of the First Fruits. However, the First Fruits are resisting him in all of his efforts, and exposing his attempts to pervert the true gospel message. They are restraining him. The word "letteth" and its various forms in the KJV of this passage means "restrains". Verse 7 says that though the "mystery of iniquity (false gospel message) doth already work (is being presented and received), he who restrains it (resists it and attempts to expose it) will restrain until he be "taken out of the way". This happens when the first fruits are caught up - Revelation 12:5.
Verse 8 of II Thessalonians 2 then says, AND THEN shall that Wicked be revealed, WHOM the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, .... It is obvious that "that Wicked" in this verse is either a person or persons because of the WHOM which relates back to it. It could be the first beast, the second beast, both beasts, or the entire entourage of characters which is due to be presented. I rather believe it will be the latter. If it is the latter, the first fruits will depart prior to any of the alien first contact. However, if it is referring only to a specific character, such as Maitreya, or the political beast, some of the first contact process could occur prior to First Fruits departure. The passage isn't decisive enough to be sure of exactly who "that Wicked' refers to.
You can then read about the Isaiah 57 angle in our Nether Nuggets online book (http://nethernuggets.com/book/index.html) in the chapter called Isaiah's Intriguing Interlude (http://nethernuggets.com/book/intriguing_interlude.html). That whole chapter kind of correlates, but specifically the section which references Isaiah 57. Our Isaiah study is laid out chronologically, so you can find chapter 57 pretty easily. "Perish" in verse 1 can mean "escape", and "cast ye up" can mean "raise ye up" in verse 14. The text in the book purposes a pretty structured time line for this event. There are several mentions of peace for those who are caught up per verses 1 and 14, but there is no peace for he wicked (verse 21). This would be the announcement of NESARA in the world here below - i.e. the declaration of peace, but it will fail. It is a structured system whereby peace is announced and the global economic system is established.
Even Word Net Daily referred to NESARA in an article recently. They warn that there is a hoax version out there, and indeed the concept of NESARA yields to the potential of exploitation, and there might be some scams related to it. However, NESARA was legislated in a pending mode by Clinton years ago to prepare for the day in the future when it would be implemented. I believe that day is upon us, and that this declaration could literally come any day. Apparently they have already tried a few times to implement it, but it hasn't yet been accomplished. I believe one day soon it will be done.
I Thessalonians 5:3 says when they say "peace and safety" shall sudden destruction come. Heaven only knows what this destruction will be! Their announcement is an attempt to make a man made version of the real peace which God is providing or will provide in a perfect place for the First Fruits. I believe He will remove them to this place of safety and prosperity either just before or just after this announcement. The false version will exemplify man's best effort to duplicate God's peace and prosperity, but there is simply no possibility of life without problems in this fallen world, and it is destined to fail miserably.
It appears from the sequence of chapter 57 that NESARA may not be announced until the First Fruits depart, though that isn't real clear either. There is mention of a false prophecy of abundance clear back in the last verse of chapter 56, and indeed the message of the abundance of NESARA started circulating over a year ago. A part of the instructions during the NESARA announcement is the plans to introduce the concept of star people to the world, and let them know that they are "friendly" and are "here to help mankind". Then shortly thereafter, they will have a formal first contact media presentation for TV news crews, and a short time later, they plan to have a "second coming" event with their Messiah figure (Sananda) who will claim to have been Yeshua 2000 years ago, coming back to establish his kingdom. They are all ready and waiting in the wings. It seems that what they are waiting for may be the departure of the First Fruits (the restrainer) so they can proceed with their facade. Heaven help those who are left behind after the departure. It will get bad very quickly!!!
I believe the declaration of peace will be formalized by a peace treaty between the aliens and the world leaders. I believe that the Middle East peace treaty was just a shadow of this more global peace treaty, but it will be no more successful than the Middle East version has been.
I really believe the political beast (who is usually thought to be the Anti Christ figure) will be B. Clinton. This doesn't mean he is inhabited now, but the indwelling may occur after he takes office in the UN, which I do believe will occur. He denied any such aspiration on the Larry King Live show recently, but I know he will do it if he is asked, and he will surely be asked, especially after the summit he plans to hold this coming September (2005), where he plans to present the solutions for the world's economic, religious and ecological problems! Did you ever see J R Church's video called Tickling the Tail of the Dragon? If not, you really need to see it. It is actually a 2 part series, but part 1 is a must. I can mail it to you if you haven't seen it. Whereas Bill Clinton presided over the Oslo, it is only fitting that he will preside over the global peace process too. That may be what catapults him into the global leadership position. Whatever the sudden destruction is in I Thessalonians 5:3, he will then CONFIRM (enforce) the peace process which he has presided over per Daniel 9:27, which begins the week of Tribulation. This passage also talks of the sacrifices in the Temple, so it is obvious that at some point during the onset of this week that the temple is built. That too is ready to happen. That is where the Pope enters the picture, per Zechariah's Biblical prophecies as linked to the Malachy prophecy.
In 1139, an illustrious Catholic archbishop known as St. Malachy went to Rome. While he was there there, he had a strange vision which presented all of the Popes to the end of time. The vision was documented and presented to Innocent II, and it remained hidden away in the Roman Archives until 1590. At that time it was found and published. Within the vision, each Pope was granted a mystical title which related to his country, name, coat of arms, insignia, birth place, talent, education, title, etc. These prophetic "handles" have proven to be astonishingly accurate! This current Pope is the 111th Pope, and per the Malachy prophecy, his ID is Gloria Olivae, or (in English) Glory of the Olive or Glory of the Olive Branch.
In Zechariah 6:12 it says that the man whose NAME IS "THE BRANCH" shall grow up out of his place, and shall build the temple of the Lord. I believe that "his place" is the papal throne, and that this man is Ratzinger. In the following verse it says that "he shall bear the GLORY, so there you have the GLORY of the OLIVE BRANCH. He will sit and rule upon the throne, and he shall be priest upon his throne, and the COUNSEL of PEACE shall be between THEM BOTH. The counsel of peace would be the NESARA constituents (Ascended Masters who enforce the false peace and propagate he Aquarian gospel message). The word BOTH here represents a coregency, and would be the transition to the rule of the False Messiah. Whereby it looks as though this current Pope corules with him for a time, it will just be through the transition, then he will likely be removed somehow so the False Messiah (the 112st. Pope) can reign alone. The throne of Zechariah 6:13 will almost certainly be a Temple throne. It may even be upon the mercy seat of the Ark which they will put in the Holy of Holies in the new Temple, the reason for their now urgent demand for the Ark to be brought forth. Once proof of the location of the Ark is provided, they will be FORCED to build the Temple to house it. The time has come!!! This sitting on the Temple throne of Zechariah also corresponds to II Thessalonians 2:4, where the son of perdition sits in the Temple of God, showing himself to be God. This will be the latter of the dual papacy termed "BOTH" in Zechariah 6:13, when the False Messiah claims to be God and sits on the throne as Yeshua.
That is how I see it unfolding, and it looks as though it will simply take the removal of the First Fruits to start the ball rolling. I am serious as a heartbeat when I say that my research says that EVERYTHING is ready and waiting for the queue!!!!! It is so quiet in my spirit I could hear a pin drop. It is like the half hour of silence in heaven. I sense that it is time. We must be sure we are ready for Luke 21:36!